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I watched him do it, He loaded the gun and just out of habit from ARs attempted to charge the weapon up until that day I have NEVER seen any other AK besides SAM7s have this malfunction. Now luckly when this happened to the owner of this SAM7 his gun was not fully in battery and the hammer just rode the bolt home.
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Now during take down it is a non issue but while using it is a major one. There is a certain point where it depresses the trigger enough to allow the hammer to drop. If you cam an ak safety vertically as if you were removing it while the hammer is cocked. This allows with normally a casual amount of force for a user to force that safety up over the top cover and does one of two things it binds the rifle up via the ambi safety on the right side of rifle or it allows a round to be chambered and the hammer to drop. That is 1mm of edge on edge steel that is expected to prevent that bolt from moving rearward and I does not work. you get thisįrankly this is goddamn dangerous. This is not what you get when ordering the gun.
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This was pulled directly from their website for the SF model. This is a huge oversight or deliberate misdirection. In fact the image on arsenals website they currently show isold original SAM7 which has the correct parts. Now the old SAM7s from arsenal addressed this by having a correctly styled top cover with that same feature to prevent this issue. That is a critically important and fundamental part for that type of safety. These are the best quality images I could find sorry but the area I am talking about is visible. This style of krink uses a dust cover that prevents the safety from camming upwards like a mailbox flag. I am fairly certain the Sam7 receiver comes of a krinkov underfolder given its appearance it seems the most likely. hopefully I dont leave anything out rewritting this. I've got to re-write this my laptop got unplugged and died after I finished last time. I will explain to you what is wrong with the SAM7 it is a long explanation so hold on tight. If you get one of the slant backs and want to change stocks, you'll spend more on changing the stock/pistol grip. Or do you mean converting them to take standard AK mags? That takes a little time and about $20 in parts for the bullet guide and a good drill and tap (don't buy the cheap ones that the bullet guide vendors sell) and a file to work down the mag catch. VEPRs are pretty accurate to begin with (for AKs, 1-2 MOA-ish with steel case ammo). If I were to purchase now, I'd go with the FM-AK47-11 VEPRs.Īs per fine-tuning? Do you mean for accuracy? I haven't had to fine tune anything. Looks like you can buy the FM-AK47-11 from a couple places for around $999 or you could buy the slant back for around $719 + conversion cost & time that will put you at around $999+ anyway. I've converted both Saigas and VEPR rifles and still have my VEPRs, one of which still has the slant back thumbhole stock, which I find very comfortable and shootable. You have a pretty good list (even the SAM7), but I'm not following "Krebs" VEPR vs. They are about a grand as they come from the factory so that would leave you another grand to go all Barbie on it and you would get exactly what you wanted. If I was looking to spend some serious coin on a AK, I would buy one of the square back VEPR's that KVAR offers and then dress it up the way I wanted it. Since Arsenals are a standard pattern AK rifle, there is a lot of aftermarket dodads available for them. However, you will probably never wear out a stamped AK, so the point is largely moot. I have a few milled AK's and they are smoother shooting and more durable than a stamped receiver rifle. I am not into tackicool rifles, so I would personally never buy a Krebs, but if that is what you like, then they probably make the closest thing to what you are looking for as an out of the box rifle.ĭespite what Venom says, I think your best bet would be a SAM7 if you want a quality milled receiver AK. A cold hammer forged barrel that is chrome lined, like you would get on a VEPR or an Arsenal, is going to be a very tough barrel and will probably out last any barrel made from stainless steel. I have seen more than a few SAM7's and all those I have seen looked good and shot well.Īs for the whole stainless barrel thing, To me that seems like a lot of effort and money for no gain except as a cosmetic thing. Venom1956, what makes you say that the SAM7 is a POS? I saw your other post on how your SAM7 was a problem child, but a sample of one does not constitute a blanket statement about all of them.